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What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?

Sarah Lewis

30th September, 2009

The recycling network has seen its UK groups halve in number after members lost patience with its 'autocratic' US leadership

Since its inception in 2003, the online world of Freecycle has looked to many like a paragon of an environmentally conscious grassroots movement.

But over the last month, simmering tensions in the network have boiled over, resulting in more than 40 per cent of the 510 UK Freecycle groups breaking away to form an independent network called Freegle.

Freecycle is, in essence, a giant internet-based swap shop, made up of thousands of localised groups allowing users to give away stuff they don't want any more, and receive stuff they do want.

The rules are simple: whatever you give away must be free, and you can't keep taking without giving.

The aim is to keep useful things out of landfill, and although there are no official figures as to how much waste the network has kept above ground in the last six years, with nearly 5,000 groups in over 70 countries, and a total membership tipping 6.5 million people, it's hard to deny its success.

'Autocratic'


So why has it all gone wrong? Cat Fletcher, one time moderator of Brighton Freecycle and creator of replacement group GreenCycleSussex, says the founding US network was becoming increasingly 'autocratic and unreasonable'.

'We'd been trying to negotiate with the Americans for years but it wasn't successful. The guys in the US just didn't reply,' she says.

The Freecycle concept began innocently enough. A man called Deron Beal started the first group in Arizona and as the idea spread, anyone was allowed to set up with the name Freecycle using the Yahoo Groups messaging service.

Just over a year later, in August 2004, The Freecycle Network (TFN), which acts as a central administrative body for all Freecycle groups, filed an application to trademark the word Freecycle and imposed stringent rules on its usage.

Genericisation in any form was forbidden.

Anyone claiming to be an 'active freecycler', or to be in the process of 'freecycling some old stuff', would be guilty of trademark infringement.

In 2006, groups on Yahoo using the word freecycle, or any similar sounding word, were targeted and told to shut down.

Yahoo itself deleted one group on the request of TFN, but Freecycle Sunnyvale retaliated, bringing a trademark opposition lawsuit against the network, which in turn responded by bringing a law suit against Freecycle Sunnyvale owner Tim Oey for trademark infringement.

The rulings in both cases said the word 'freecycle' could be used generically. But Beal kept this quiet, with Oxfordshire moderator Andy Swarbrick insisting no one was told about the court decisions and strict rules as to the use of the word held in place.

Moderators


While all this was happening, moderators who contacted the American network to question decisions or make suggestions for improving Freecycle in the UK - such as implementing a Freecycle area at local tips - were told to leave their positions.

‘Any moderators expressing opinions not exactly in alignment with what the Americans wanted were being deleted from their groups and asked to step down,' says Fletcher. 'These people started groups out of the goodness of their hearts and devoted thousands of hours of time. All of a sudden they were told to go, just for expressing an opinion’.

Neil Morris, who resigned as director of the UK Freecycle Network in September, and is now an active member of Freegle, says:
‘Volunteers were being told they didn't fit within the organisations. I didn't think it was right. You just don't do that.

'I had more or less managed to prevent people being forced to leave, but when I scaled back from being so active to work on my PhD it became very clear that the people filling the space were going to work the way Deron wanted them to, rather than to speak for the autonomy that had been building up.'

Brighton breakaway


Tensions came to a head when a combination of internal and international politics caused Cat Fletcher to feel she had no choice but to delete the Brighton Freecycle group and invite its 16,000 members to join GreenCycleSussex.

Fearful that Beal would delete their accounts and ban their free-recycling activities, and buoyed by the actions of Fletcher, moderators across the country began removing their groups from the Freecycle Network.

The following day, a group of moderators decided the exodus of some 190 groups was large enough to warrant creating an independent network - Freegle.

The future


Morris insists Freegle wasn't premeditated, but a logical response to an immediate need.

‘Everyone tried to stay within Freecycle,' he says. 'The people who left were the people who had taken leadership and grown Freecycle to make the UK the country with the highest proportion of freecyclers in the world.

'I quite honestly don't know why Deron has done what he's done. I'm actually gobsmacked that someone would allow an organisation that has such great potential to be run the way it is run. You need to enhance the enthusiasm and efforts of volunteers, rather than hold them back.’

By the end of September, Freegle had gained about 43 per cent of the original UK Freecycle membership and is continuing to grow.

Deron Beal and the US Network made no comment.

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Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By catydyd 1 September 30, 2009 03:46:00 PM

freecycle groups now ( the Astro-turf ) are basically gimme groups. Most are nothing but WANT groups, with most never posting any offers. Posting of addresses and phone numbers, which on the original groups would not be allowed. Owners and moderators who do not even live in the states that the groups are in. Head of fc taking money from corporations, like Waste Management ( which if you look has the worst record for the environment )so he can sit home drawing income while volunteers do all the work for free. fc's time has past. Allowing owners to run their groups the way they see fit is the answer. Myself, I took 7 groups from fc a year ago and we have never felt better or regretted it. All groups in the UK would do good leaving and doing their own thing. Advice for the rest, do NOT run a poll asking the mebers if they would like to leave. Just remove all traces of freecycle mentioned in your files and just go. Remove EF as an owner fast. If you need help, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/ They will help you through the transition. and alot of fc heads that left are there. Good luck.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By timoey 1 October 1, 2009 05:09:09 AM

It is most unfortunate that The Freecycle Network (TFN) is giving the word freecycle such a bad reputation. Freecycling is an easy and natural thing. I hope more people will refer to TFN as TFN and keep freecycle itself free and clean for everyone to use and do. For a summary of the lawsuits referenced above, please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freecyclesunnyvale/ In the US we reaffirmed in court that we have the right to use freecycle as a simple word -- using it as a word is not trademark infringement. Really everyone should be free to use words as words and not be bullied by the likes of TFN. I hope all of you will keep on freecycling and recycling. These are earth saving activities that you can do with or without TFN. Cheers, Tim Oey

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By mattfortnam 1 October 1, 2009 07:47:36 PM

The Freecycle network does indeed seem very precious. Many people are frustrated with using it. In Bristol, we have set-up a free stuff service which has a lot more features to make it easier for people to trade. Its part of a local green community website called www.ecojam.org . What's great about Ecojam is that when people come to trade free stuff, they also find out about green events, news, jobs and other stuff going on in the city. Check it out!

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By EC060551 1 October 1, 2009 10:10:00 PM

I think the choice of Freegle as the new name is appallingly bad. All the signs of haste are there.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By jacsquests 1 October 1, 2009 10:40:01 PM

Wow, what a coincidence! Just today I found Freegle and was looking up Freecycle again and then this! I didn't know Freegle was a spin off of Freecycle though. I hope the good work will continue without all the politics as I've read above...

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By heidiup1 1 October 2, 2009 10:56:54 AM

Great article. Just one little comment: it's not The Americans who are at fault--it's Deron Beal and his adoring minions. Many of us Americans have left or were forced out for the same reason the Freeglers left or were forced out. The name is catchy. I like it.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By max007 1 October 2, 2009 01:28:34 PM

Have tried to use the Freecycle sites and found them to be very confusing. In looking around for a new way of 'freecycling', came across The Vyoz Network and their collection of diverse environmentally friendly sites. Found the sites very user friendly and the vSkips recycling site an innovative way of recycling my unwanted articles etc. I thought that the Studentcycle site was an excellent way for students to be able to help themselves through college and university by recycling anything from text books to fridges. All in all an excellent group of sites. Take a look. (www.vyouz.com)

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By conquistador 1 October 3, 2009 12:53:36 AM

It is a pitty, that we have such selfish groups of people,and that is one of the causes we have the world splittig apart, and with many eviormental problems.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By OverHere 1 October 3, 2009 08:20:59 AM

Our local groups are fortunate in that the moderators in general don't appear to have been affected by the issues in the article, with the exception of one group. Some really silly rules have been introduced, which include a ban on the same post on neighbouring groups. So, when previously you could offer something on 2 or 3 local groups in the hope that at least one person will respond, now you have to wait 2 days between offering it on one group then the other etc. A real pain if you wanted to get rid of it quickly.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By Laurie. 1 October 11, 2009 12:49:55 PM

Greetings each. I thoroughly concur, although I would also say the same about the owners/moderators of the Taunton (UK) group. I have been slung out of that group twice, merely for voicing my opinions. I still maintain that, as a British citizen, I have a right to free speech, so will not be gagged under any circumstances! Freecycle has had its day as far as I am concerned, as nothing being wanted or offered will ever end up in landfill sites: the site operators will see to that. All local authority "tips" have now been transformed into "recycling centres" as there is much money to be made out of recycling for them all. The only stuff that now ends up in lanfill sites is genuine refuse which no one has any use for anyway. Additionally nearly all "wants" on my local Freecycle are for what I would call "luxury" items such as TV's, cars, caravans and the like. Cheers.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By TauntonFreecycler 1 October 11, 2009 05:50:08 PM

Re post by Laurie: Don't be bitter Laurie, as you say you were thrown out twice for using the Freecycle site as a soapbox for your own opinions, not for the purpose for which it was intended, i.e. to prevent items from ending up in the landfill. As for "nearly all "wants" "luxury" items, the last five wants today are:a table, a darts mat, a kitchen work surface, fabric to make items for the needy, and wool. Hardly luxury items. There are 7000 members of the Taunton Freecycle group and we get a fairly equal measure of Wanted and Offered items. Last month nearly 1600 items were kept from the landfill site. It's a great service, and run entirely by volunteers.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By Laurie. 1 October 11, 2009 08:52:29 PM

Dear TauntonFreecycler. Like many others, you are completely missing the point or even losing the plot. None of this stuff would EVER end up in landfill anyway! OK so it might well be illegally dumped on a country road somewhere. :-( Do yourself ( and everyone else) a favour before you start expounding the wholesome values of Freecycle. Visit your own local "landfill" site, wherever that may be, and actually LOOK at what happens to all the domestic "rubbish" that people take there. Everything, apart from refuse, is carefully recycled. After that litle exercise you will, no doubt, change your (admirable if misguided) beliefs. Freecycle is rapidly becoming a "wish list"/beggars'charter for the idle want-to-owns in our society! Stay good! Cheers. Laurie.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By TauntonFreecycler 1 October 11, 2009 09:20:32 PM

Laurie. You've obviously not looked very carefully. There are several large skips with "items that cannot be recycled". They are filled to overflowing with bikes, furniture, beds, sofas. These are all items that appear daily on Taunton Freecycle. Why crush a bike and melt it down for scrap metal at great expense to the environment, when it can be used as it is? Yes occassionally people ask for what may appear to you to be extravagant items, but who are you or I to judge what could be life changing for someone else? One member got back to work thanks to the car he was given by a fellow member. Another was able to take her children on their first ever holiday thanks to the caravan they were given. No one is forcing people to give these items - they are chosing to do so. By "idle want-to-owns" I guess you mean all those less fortunate than yourself. You say a lot about yourself by such comments.

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By Laurie. 1 October 16, 2009 11:12:50 PM

Dear TauntonFreecycler. You are starting to sound like a certain moderator I am about to stitch up! I am not sure which "tip" you are referring to but, I will gladly give you £5 for every bicycle you can prove to be in one of your "items that cannot be recycled" skips at Priorswood! You are, of course, naturally trying to score points within an area of which you know nothing! I, being of the older (and wiser) generation, can well remember the days when the "tip" was covered with said "idle want-to-owns" etc scavenging for 10p-off coupons etc from washing powder packets and the like. I, in all honesty, wasn't much better at that time as I was more interested in "re-cycling" a set of rear wheels on a scrapped car for use on my "new" car trailer! LOL Stay good! Cheers. Laurie. xxx

Re: What went wrong with Freecycle in the UK?
Posted By BeatsMe 1 February 17, 2010 03:37:13 AM

It is going wrong in the US as well. With this Pepsi challenge thing, some of the mods are trying to ask where the money is going and why it is really needed, only to be gagged and placed on moderation ourselves in the mod/owners groups.
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