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What the carbon market did after Copenhagen: nothing
Dan Box
2nd February, 2010
Come 31st of January - the day when international emissions cuts were supposed to be announced - carbon markets should have rocketed. They didn't, and that's a bad sign
What is going on with the price of carbon?
Or rather, why is nothing going on? Right now, the benchmark price as traded on the European Climate Exchange (ECX), is €12.86 per tonne (this basically means it costs €12.86 to buy a permit to emit one tonne of CO2, or its equivalent). That's more or less what it was this time last month.
Yet at the end of January the deadline passed for the world's countries to announce socking great carbon emissions cuts, in line with the deal struck at December's Copenhagen climate talks. The EU has promised a 20 per cent emissions cut against 1990 levels within the next 10 years. The US has signed up for a 17 per cent cut (but on a 2005 baseline). India and China have offered cuts in 'carbon intensity' – the rate at which they pollute, rather than the overall level of pollution itself.
Surely such good news should be driving the price of carbon up? After all, emissions cuts should make the value of a permit to pollute increase. Yes?
No. €12.86 is a bog standard price for carbon, less than half the price it reached as recently as June 2008. The figure, and its failure to bounce after the deadline passed, shows just how seriously the world's markets think the world's governments are about cutting back on carbon. €12.86 means the promised cuts are not enough.
In fact, things have got so bad that various sources tell me many traders have now decided to quit the carbon business altogether. That matters for two reasons: one, a high carbon price itself gives companies an incentive to cut their emissions, by making it expensive to pollute and two, it means there is less money to be made from low-carbon technology, so those companies developing it are starved of funds.
Trading carbon is potentially a good mechanism for fighting climate change, but it is not now working as it should. For that to happen, governments must step up. Bryony Worthington of the pressure group Sandbag points to the European Union, which led the way by setting up the ECX but has now faltered, promising to raise its pledged cuts to 30 per cent only if other developed countries follow suit. That decision alone would take 3 billion tonnes of CO2 out of atmosphere by 2020, says Worthington. It would also drive up the carbon price. The machine is stuck, not broken.
We just need someone to give it a shove.
Watching the builders II
Last November I wrote about using your local builder to work out where the economy was heading. At the time, we were getting quotes for knocking down a bodged extension on a house we'd bought. Business was patchy, we were told. Every builder we spoke too said they could start work almost straight away.
Today, we've got a new roof on the house (the old one also turned out to be a dud) and Neil, the builder, has been doing quotes for people like crazy over the winter. A lot more confidence is creeping back. But too few of the quotes are turning into actual work. People aren't yet quite ready to take the plunge. Confidence is everything in this business, which is still predicted to have lost 375,000 jobs by next year, but Neil is feeling good. He's taking on as much as he can right now, saving to buy a house of his own.
That itself is a very good sign.
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Re: What the carbon market did after Copenhagen: nothingHere is the problem. You wrote: "India and China have offered cuts in 'carbon intensity' – the rate at which they pollute, rather than the overall level of pollution itself."
And as anybody knows who has passed high school biology, CO2 is not pollution. And as any Greenie should know, it is GREAT for plant life.
Maybe people are starting to learn. As Prof. Richard Lindzen of MIT, a true climate scientist, wrote:
"One of the things the scientific community is pretty agreed on is those things [CO2 caps] will have virtually no impact on climate no matter what the models say. So the question is do you spend trillions of dollars to have no impact? And that seems like a no brainer."
So a word to the wise--if you don't want to lose your shirt, stay out of the phony carbon market.
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Re: What the carbon market did after Copenhagen: nothingThis is a market that should fail for the good of everybody. It is a false economy to reduce emissions of a harmless gas.
Check out the work of Miskolczi and Zagoni. They have shown that the interactions of water vapor and related thermodynamics in the atmosphere are such that CO2 in the atmosphere is irrelevant to the climate, except, of course, as excellent plant food.
Claims of environmental effects of CO2 and global warming are all junk science and the claims of the IPCC are being shown to be false. Their claims of the effects of global warming have to be false as we are cooling. | |
Re: What the carbon market did after Copenhagen: nothingThis is a market that should fail for the good of everybody. It is a false economy to reduce emissions of a harmless gas.
Check out the work of Miskolczi and Zagoni. They have shown that the interactions of water vapor and related thermodynamics in the atmosphere are such that CO2 in the atmosphere is irrelevant to the climate, except, of course, as excellent plant food.
Claims of environmental effects of CO2 and global warming are all junk science and the claims of the IPCC are being shown to be false. Their claims of the effects of global warming have to be false as we are cooling. | |
Re: What carbon market?Whatever global warming has occurred since the close of the Little Ice Age (circa 1850) has emphatically NOT been anthropogenic, particularly NOT as the result of the combustion of fossil fuels. There has in fact been no acceleration of this very small increase in global temperatures, and these temperatures have certainly not risen as high as the various climate optima in recorded history (with emphasis on the Medieval Warm period).
This being the case, there is no need for reducing human industrial or agricultural carbon dioxide emissions, and there is no "carbon market" whatsoever.
The Watermelon warmist bubble popped explosively with Climategate, and therefore to hell with your malevolent schemes to plunder and beggar your neighbors.
Have a nice day.
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Re: What the carbon market did after Copenhagen: nothingThe reason is simple. Climategate killed cap and trade stone cold dead in the US. With the US, China and India doing absolutely nothing about CO2 Europe basically subsidizes industrial production abroad. Without these three countries in Europe is killing its industrial production for nothing. |



